Yes, this is child #3; and yes, I read a lot when I was pregnant with Kayla, but that was over four years ago. The only thing I really remember from my research then was that I wanted to be informed as the opinions are strong on this issue so I read about Lamaze, the Bradley method, epidurals, midwives, and on and on the list goes. I wanted a midwife at a hospital, but other than that, I was just going to play it by ear. I didn't end up with any "convictions" (bad word but I think you know what I mean); my birth plan was preferences. My midwife ended up sending me in for an induction for the "health of the baby" (although it turned out to be nothing and an induction was not part of my birth plan), and the Pitocin was wicked after they broke my water and there was no cushion for those contractions. Because I had a neutral opinion about epidurals after all my reading and talking with people, I soon found myself asking for one.
For Krista's birth, I admit I didn't do any reading or even mental preparation. The plan was to go the epidural route as it had been an absolute wonderful labor, delivery, and recovery experience for me. And again, the birthing experience was fabulous -- even better this time because the push time was so short even while being pain free.
So here I am -- child #3 and if I were in the States would be going the epidural route again, but I'm not in the States. So, it's time to prepare for a very natural occurrence that I have never experienced that way before -- birth. I have been reading online and seem to be leaning towards the Bradley method. But, I was wondering what your experiences have been. Did you use the Bradley method? Would you use it again? Did you use another method? What books were the most helpful for you? (I got several from the library, but I never bought any so I don't even remember what I read when I was pregnant with Kayla -- isn't that crazy? I so feel like a first time mom.)
I just want to say that all of you no matter where you fall on the topic of childbirth have been a blessing to me with your comments. Those of you who are excited for me to experience birth without intervention -- I have loved your comments. Those of you who have done it both ways and prefer the natural way -- definitely encouraging. Those of you who have done it both ways and prefer the epidural route -- not at all discouraging because these comments connect to me in a different way because I feel like I'm one of you as I really loved my epidurals (in case I had never mentioned that before).
There is a lady here who had three children in the States with epidurals and then had her fourth child here. I asked her how it was. Her face was hilarious. It was so obvious the experience hadn't been good especially compared to the ease of an epidural and a Stateside birthing experiencing but it was also obvious that she didn't want to just say it bluntly like that to me -- a pregnant woman who was in a similar situation that she had been in. I started laughing and told her that she could be up front with me and that she had actually encouraged me in a way that validated me in the scenario that I end up like her and preferring the epidural. I talked to another lady here who has had both of her children here so she can't compare it to a birthing experience in the States or one with an epidural, but she said that she had a good experience here overall -- she used the Bradley method. I talked to another lady whose only child was born here, and she had a good experience as well. Ahhh... it's very interesting how different experiences "speak" to me in helpful ways.
I find myself joking a lot on myself about all the unknowns and being a wimp and all -- I think it's my way of coping -- staying lighthearted about it. Anyway, time to get serious and do some reading, mental preparing, planning, and of course lots of praying. Your input on the Bradley method or other methods would be very much appreciated no matter where you fall on these issues. Yes, I do realize childbirth is a very natural thing of life, and people do it all the time here without ever having read a book or an internet article. Life is so interesting, isn't it?
The Africans would probably think I'm crazy for putting so much thought into such a natural event of life. I try not to talk too much about this topic with them and have only ever talked about epidurals with one African lady who the conversation was "right" for it. I'm just playing it "cool" like they do. :-) That's the good part about there being no other option -- you just do it, the way God set it up to happen, just like your mama and grandma did it. I was talking to one young girl about how breastfeeding was going. Fine she said. I asked her if she had someone she could talk to if she needed any help, and she looked at me very blankly. You know -- the different holding positions and is the baby's mouth just right and what about the angles? :-) No breast pumps, shields, creams, ice packs,etc for when their milk comes in, and she had no problems. I wonder what they would think if they knew that you could make a living as a lactation consultant in the States and that there are whole lines of breastfeeding "aids" -- they would probably think I was joking.
Thursday, November 12, 2009
Time For Childbirth Research
Posted by Karis at 5:46 AM
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Loved the post. I had both babies naturally and I have no idea what the Bradley method is. I just went into labor, endured the contractions, and pushed. It was a very very good experience. And fast. I would do it again the same way if I had to. One suggestion I have is not to be on your back during the delivery--it hurts. Praying for you,
Iryna
Iryna, you did it the "African" way. Enduring the contractions and then pushing -- that's a perfect summary of what I've heard of childbirth out here. Thanks for your comment.
Boyd and I did go to Lamaze classes and loved them. I ended up not using much of anything that we learned there, though. What I did love about the classes is the confidence that they gave me in the fact that I could do it naturally and enjoy it. Also, the confidence to confront my doctor when he did not want to let me do it the way it felt right to me. What an amazing experience! So excited for you. It should not be too bad the third time around:)
Miss you,
Iryna
Well, Karis, I could not tell you a thing about what is the best way to have babies naturally because I loved my epidural too!! But, I can't imagine not having a lactation nurse to help me with Megan. I don't know what I would have done other than cried and cried. It was a rough first few weeks, but we endured to the end, and I just now ending nursing her...which has been a little sad for me although I thought I would be so excited to be done nursing. Sorry I am not much help in this topic, but I did enjoy reading your post!!
Hi Karis! I enjoyed reading your post. I loved what you said about being a wimp. I am so right there with you! You are so right about how interesting life is and how everyone does things differently! Every birth is different too!
After much research and talking with several people whose counsel we valued, Kevin and I went with the Bradley method with Silas. (Kev's mom was a midwife for many years and highly recommended the Bradley.) We got a childbirth teacher and ended up paying for private classes with her since I'd procrastinated so long. It was worth every penny! The midwifery center I delivered at in Norfolk was great. I really enjoyed my experience and came home from that labor feeling great and like I could do it again no problem! Ruthanne's birth was WAY different though! Silas' birth was textbook and the Bradley relaxation techniques worked great, but I had all back labor with Ruthanne (she also came faster) and those same techniques only did so much. I had not prepared for back labor at all with her - note to self for next time!! There were several things I wish now that I had thought to do. Ruthanne was also delivered in a hospital rather than a midwifery center within the hospital. So even though I had a midwife and was able to do the natural thing at the hospital, the experience was drastically different in many ways, most of which we did not like. Hopefully there'll be new choices here in Lexington the next time around!
I will be praying that God gives you wisdom, confidence, and peace regarding all these birth issues and decisions. And I will pray for an easy labor!!
Oh, and I will echo the comment about not being on your back during delivery - listen to your body and do what feels right! (It's one of those few times in life when the saying "If it feels good, do it" applies perfectly! :)
Ok, so this has gotten really long! Sorry! Love you and am praying for you!!
I read "Active Birth" which was a big help to me (except for the photos, lol) just in using gravity in your favor and moving about as much as possible during labor & delivery. I ended up on my knees during most of my labor - Evan was posterior and I had back labor. It also helped me to visualize the process as I was in labor - what exactly it was that my body was doing during a contraction, etc. That helped TONS, and I could actually concentrate on relaxing in the pain, trusting that God made my body to do what it was doing right then. My midwife was also a Bradley instructor, so I'm sure we had plenty of that influence going on. Praying for you, and excited to hear how God works it out for you and shows you His strength in new and exciting ways!
I know that when it comes down to it, you'll be able to do it, because moms are able to do what they have to do! (God's grace helps a lot) :) I had an epidural, but after an hour and a half of pushing they turned it off while I pushed for an hour and a half more. So, I didn't have to endure the contractions, but I did have to endure pushing out a 10 lb. baby. so I'll just say, it was not pain free. :) but I was glad, because now I know that I've experienced that pain and could do it again if I had to! So I know you'll find the right way for you and remember, it's only one day of pain for a lifetime of enjoyment. :)
You are so brave!!! I never had an epidural, but the IV pain medication was deffinatly a big help in taking the edge off the pain!!! I guess you do what you have to, and people have been having babies for centuries w/o meds. I must just be a wimp!!!
I had a bad epidural experience with my first, and a wondering "natural" experience with my second. I can't say it's to much of my credit that I didn't get an epidural though. Things went fast I guess. I don't know what method we used - went to some classes at the midwifery with the 2nd (delivered at a hospital with a midwife). This time around, I'm trying to brace myself for a not-so-great experience, just in case. : )
I will keep praying things go well with this pregnancy. I know you'll do great!
Congratulations on the ultrasound results! So excited for you!
Love,
Iryna
Hey Karis-
I'm pretty sure the Bradley method is what we used. There was a lot of relaxation techniques. For our childbirth class, we had to practice a lot before labor, and I think it helped. I thought that info that we got from our class was really helpful. Even just little tips were really helpful...some you might already know. I won't lie, the contractions hurt during the transition stage, but it was a pretty short time. The pushing was actually the worst for me...not painful, just took a while. I think we had a good experience with the natural route, and I'm planning on going the natural route again:) I always say, if I could do it, anyone can do it...because I'm a wimp:) And I LOVED having a midwife over a doctor!! I'll be praying for you, for wisdom on your decision!
Karis - I'll be praying for you and will share more about my natural childbirth experiences as soon as the Lord gives me a good chunk of time. I had both Steven an Amanda naturally with a midwife and they were great experiences. Do you have any options of taking a natural child birth class there? Our instructor didn't espouse to a particular method, but taught us many things that helped prepare us well...I can find the materials and send them to you if you think that would help...there was one chart in particular about the stages of labor and how to handle each one that I used with all my births. Love you so much! - Kathleen
Karis - I'll be praying for you and will share more about my natural childbirth experiences as soon as the Lord gives me a good chunk of time. I had both Steven an Amanda naturally with a midwife and they were great experiences. Do you have any options of taking a natural child birth class there? Our instructor didn't espouse to a particular method, but taught us many things that helped prepare us well...I can find the materials and send them to you if you think that would help...there was one chart in particular about the stages of labor and how to handle each one that I used with all my births. Love you so much!
Hey girl, we need to catch up soon. I don't know if you are like me, but sometimes just knowing what I am facing helps put me in the right frame of mind to work through it. You know going in that it will be natural, so you won't have to worry about expecting an epidural and it not being available. I know that the Lord will help you and give peace of mind when it's time. Easy words for me to say, I know, but they are still true. Plus, it's baby #3, and very possibly will be a quick delivery. For both of my deliveries, I concentrated on a specific verse I could claim, since both times were a new experience for me (the first time being the first time I ever gave birth, and the second time being the section, and I was terrified since I had never had surgery). Those verses helped more than anything else. And you know, I have often found that things are NEVER as bad as I think they are going to be. I tend to be so afraid of new circumstances - fear of the unknown I guess you could call it - but after it's over, I find that it was in fact not as bad as I had built up in my mind. I know you are going to do just fine, and you will have so many people praying for you. :) Love ya!
I will be praying for you! You are not a wimp and will do great! I can give no advice since I ended up with a csection with my first (I went through about 15 hrs labor, pitocin, and barely dialated 1 cm, myconium in fluid so I agreed to csection--would do things differently now!), went a week over with my second--having contractions the entire time, but never dialated 1 cm, so delivered csection once again. Now with #3 due in 7 wks, I am just PLANNING on a csection --I think I am the wimp! :0) God could allow things to work differently, so if that happens I will do what I have to do and probably not have a clue about what method to use! HAHA I have heard great things about the Bradley method. Praying God will give you wisdom and Lord willing this 3rd baby will deliver quickly for you!
Dear Karis,
You might not remember me. I was in Dan's class at Northland. After graduation, I married Dan Thompson and we are now serving as missionaries in Chile. I think I can relate a little to what you're experiencing. I am now four months pregnant with our fourth child. All three of my kids were born in the US and I feel like I will be giving birth for the first time with this new little one. With my first,Micah, I didn't have time for any medication or epidural and really suffered through his birth. I thoroughly enjoyed the birth of Matthias, our second because of the intrathecal (sp), similar to the epidural but only a one time dosage. Morgan, our third was born using the same process as I couldn't think of suffering so much again... I guess I will admit to being a wimp too.
And now we're in Chile, an hour and a half from a good hospital. There is a first aid station in our village. I know the medical care here could be more advanced than in Cameroon but the fears are still there, right? All I'll say to close is that I don't have any answers or advice but I understand... I promise to be praying for you. Isaiah 41:10 has been a verse I have been leaning on during my pregnancy so far. I am sick for nine months too. We pray for your ministry, having grown up in France as an MK, ministering to Africans in our church, it brings back many memories.
thinking of you,
Liz Thompson (Farrell)
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